well the book they use to conduct bible studies is already showing its age, and just like the changes they made to the live forever book they are doing it to the bible teach book as well.
here is something i found on the kool aid site jw talk .
net:.
"lost"
You are lost in the Watchtower world. The conditions today are way better than in any other time in the past. The problem with you is that you watch too much television and spend less time interacting with your down to earth very normal neighbors (I hope you don't live in a ghetto). Life is not perfect for many, but it is much better for the majority of people in the world then it was decades or hundreds of years ago.
background: my wife and i are inactive, we stopped attending in 2005. raised as jws, were pioneers, i was elder etc... .
our kids are in college, also inactive but are baptised.
my wife went back to college, getting her degree this month at age 48!
Be resolute in your position regarding your religious beliefs, but you may want to tell them that they are welcome to your house, social gatherings and parties anytime. If they don't want to reciprocate, that's their prerrogative. Show them more love than they are capable of showing to your wife.
Your letter only hardens my resolve to fight the cult.
Also, tangential to the subject though, what difference is there between anniversaries and birthdays? The former are annual celebrations of two individuals, the latter are the annual celebrations of one individual. I guess anniversaries should be twice as bad as birthdays.
not trying to sound like a conpiracy nut...but just read this article:.
http://www.moneynews.com/archives/trump-aftershock-american-economy/2012/11/06/id/462985?promo_code=103fc-1.
is this just a lot of talk?
Financial ruin no. We will just have to adjust to live with less because other countries want their piece of the pie, which we have enjoyed and taken for granted for so long. The U.S. will still be one of the best places to live.
i want to purchase a couple of vintage watchtower publications to help in my helping jw's break free.
some of the older ones are expensive or hard to come by - i know you can buy them on cd's but i'd like to own one or two of the "classics of propaganda"- some of the ones that speak for themselves as to the ridiculousness of this religion.. of course any magazine i pick up today speaks to me of the ridiculousness, but you need something much more hardcore for the jw's.. any recommendations?.
"children" has some pretty good quotes in it..
Biometrics,
I have no idea what torrent is. Advise. Or give me sometime to research.
Also, I would be more than happy to put it in DVD's and mail it to you. Free!! (in the U.S)
i want to purchase a couple of vintage watchtower publications to help in my helping jw's break free.
some of the older ones are expensive or hard to come by - i know you can buy them on cd's but i'd like to own one or two of the "classics of propaganda"- some of the ones that speak for themselves as to the ridiculousness of this religion.. of course any magazine i pick up today speaks to me of the ridiculousness, but you need something much more hardcore for the jw's.. any recommendations?.
"children" has some pretty good quotes in it..
Dont spend money on those books. Go to archive.org. I found so much in that place. Just about all the WT since 1879, most golden age, just about all of Rutherford's garbage, most of Russell's garbage too. PM me if you are interested in my 5 Gigabyte watchtower library.
The most damning publication is the Watchtower to the public of October and November 2011. The two part article "When was ancient Jerusalem Destroyed" contains the boldest, most shameless lie ever written by the WT. It contains plenty more.
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Mrs Jones I actually was an apatheist from the time I was 13 until I was 47, just a year ago. Today, after learning about ttatt and other christian fundamentalists beliefs, I have become anti-theist. Too much harm is being done by religion. In fact, in politics I sided with Republicans in most issues. Today, given their large support by anti-science fundamentalists, I am hesitant to identify with any party.
Funny, I just made a comment using the same quote in the recent Lady Lee thread. Two persons, likely in very distant parts of the world, had the same thought and decided to type it here almost at the same time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bertrand_russell.
bertrand arthur william russell, 3rd earl russell, om, frs[1] (18 may 1872 2 february 1970) was a british philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, and social critic.
[2] at various points in his life he considered himself a liberal, a socialist, and a pacifist, but he also admitted that he had never been any of these in any profound sense.
My kind of guy, along with Voltaire and Barruch Spinoza.
looks like the awaa people are here to stay.
i sense they have withered the rentless criticism and now have been refined for the long haul.
they have been washed in the previous blood of jesus christ and declared fit to the fine fight.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Lady Lee is definitely my friend. Some people here who are quick to judge are neither yet. Right now, they just obstruct.
(if you're tired of aawa threads, please be aware, this is an aawa thread.).
sadly - there are people who have been negatively affected by the aawa, and like other organizations, the aawa made protecting it's name and reputation a priority over helping and protecting the people it should have been trying to help.
like other organizations, they won't discuss the issues publicly with the community, insisting instead on discussions behind closed doors and "getting the names" of people expressing concerns.. .
The Watchtower must be really happy reading this thread.
Get over it.
In fact, i don't think I get a hint of lime. I get a hint of a WT secret agent.
Cedars, more than anyone else messed up. He may not be a good leader, even if he had the best of intentions and can run a website very well. But so far, he fundamentally is on our side.
Can you insist that AAWA correct its mistakes, instead of planning to take it down.
